Adam Drucker’s paraphrase of the debate. No (or very few) editorials added.
Question 1: How will you save my pension?
Obama: Economic bailout.
McCain: Energy independence.
Who answered the question? Neither.
Discussion: Who will you appoint to replace Henry Paulson?
McCain: Not Warren Buffet, because he likes Obama. I like Meg Whitman (Former President and CEO of eBay).)
Obama: Warren Buffet.
Who answered the question? Both.
Question 2: How do we help those having a bad time now?
McCain: Fuck Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac for screwing our economy.
Obama: You caused their failure.
Who answered the question? Neither.
Discussion: Will the economy get worse before it gets better?
Obama: Not if we fix it with policies.
McCain: “Maybe?”
Who answered the question: Obama.
Question 3: How can we trust either of you if your parties both failed?
Obama: “Nobody is completely innocent”, but it’s George Bush’s fault, and McCain supports Bush.
McCain: I am a maverick. Obama wants to spend all of our money forever. Energy independence.
Who answered the question: Both.
Discussion: LIST IN ORDER your priorities among health care, energy, and entitlement (social security/medicare) reform?
McCain: All of them.
Obama: We have to prioritize: Energy -> today, priority number 1. Health care -> priority number 2. Education -> priority number 3. McCain wants to cut rich people and company’s taxes by hundreds of billion of dollars.
Who answered the question: OBAMA OMGOMGOMG HE ACTUALLY LISTENED AND ANSWERED THE QUESTION EXACTLY AS INTENDED.
Question 4: What sacrifices will you ask every American to make to fix our economy?
McCain: To understand that we are going to eliminate programs, including in defence (?!), including really good projects (?!?!). Spending should be frozen except for defence (?!?!?!). Everything is important in the world, even health care, though.
Obama: Governmental level: Development of clean coal technology. Personal level: Buy hybrids, etc. You should contribute. We all have to renew America.
Who answered the question: Both.
Discussion: Everyone is drunk; how do we break our drunken habits of spending too much?
Obama: It starts with Washington; stop having a debt. We have to make more money. Earmarks are 18 billion dollars, but McCain’s tax cuts are hundreds of billions. It’s tough to tell a teacher to “tighten her belt” when the government doesn’t do the same.
McCain: Small businesses are sweet. They’ll get fucked by Obama’s tax increases. That will reduce jobs. In other words, never raise taxes; instead, cut taxes for each dependant. Also, give tax rebates for health care.
Obama: Can I respond?
Brokaw: No.
Who answered the question: Obama and Brokaw.
Question 5: Would you give congress a specific date to fix health care and social security in the next two years?
Obama: We have to do it quickly, maybe not in the next two years, but WAIT A MINUTE LET ME TALK ABOUT TAXES “I want to provide a tax cut for 95% of Americans.” “Only a few percent of small businesses make more than $250,000 per year.” Also, 50% tax credit for health care for all businesses. McCain wants to give a $300 billion tax cut to businesses and CEO’s. The average Fortune 500 CEO will get an extra $700,000 in tax cuts. Social security will be stable for all Americans.
McCain: I’ll answer the question (cackle). “It’s not that hard to fix social security” (?!?!?!). Cross the aisles. Obama has never crossed the aisle EVER. Medicare: have the smartest people in America come together to make ideas. Fuck congress, get the people to fix it. ALSO OBAMA WANTS TO INCREASE YOUR TAXES.
Who answered the question: Both…but barely.
Question 6: What will you do in the next two years to create environmental change and jobs.
McCain: I disagreed with Bush on this one! How do we fix it? Nuclear power. “I was on Navy ships that had nuclear power plants.” We can make alternative energy technology, etc. We can export this technology, too.
Obama: We can create 500 million jobs with this technology. “But we’re gonna have to make an investment” on the part of the government. I like nuclear power too, as one part. We agree that politicians in Washington haven’t done anything for the last 30 years…but he’s been there for 25 of them. During that time he voted against alternative energy technologies 23 times.
Who answered the question: Both.
Discussion: Should we fund a Manhattan-like project or a hundred thousand garages around America to create new alternative energy technologies?
McCain: Government, until it works, and then the private sector. AND THEN I VOTED AGAINST THE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY BILL BECAUSE OF EARMARKS FOR BIG OIL. OFFSHORE DRILLING IS SWEET. NUCLEAR POWER IS SWEET TOO AND OBAMA SUPPORTED IT (?!).
Who answered the question: They never asked Obama? But McCain didn’t answer it either, because he said both.
Question 7: Should health care be treated as a commodity?
Obama: We have to do something about the health care crisis. If you have health care already, then you can keep your plan. We will try to lower your premiums. McCain’s gonna tax those benefits, and take away power from the states. This will destroy the health care system itself.
McCain: This is a really hard question. Let’s do a lot of things, like walk in clinics and shit. But here’s a big difference: Obama is talking about the government; I want to give a tax cut to the families (not from the government?). Hair transplants won’t be covered, “I might need one of those myself
” (no laughs).
Who answered the question: Neither. THEY NEITHER REFERENCED WHAT A COMMODITY WAS. The question was supposed to be “should everyone get the same health care coverage without differentiation?”, but ended up being “should everyone have health care?”
Discussion: Is health care in America a privelege, a right, or a responsibility?
McCain: A responsibility. But government mandates make me wary. How much is Obama going to fine people for not getting health care?
Obama: A right for every American. My mom died of cancer because the health care providers thought it may be a pre-existing condition. There’s no mandate in my plan, because you can keep your own insurance. Children have to have health care, but they’re cheap anyway. McCain voted against SCHIP. He wants deregulation, and that sucks for America.
McCain: How much will the fine be? (Completely douchey comment)
Who answered the question: Both.
Question 8: How will our economy affect our ability to be peacemakers in the world?
McCain: We are awesome, and we can prevent genocide and terrorism by doing it. My record shows I have always been right, and Obama has always been wrong.
Obama: We should not have invaded Iraq, and al-Qaeda is still around. McCain failed horribly, said we’d be out of Iraq quickly, and has made many wrong judgements. It has hurt our budget. We have spent almost $700 billion dollars, and it may cost up to a trillion. We need the money in America, not in Iraq. McCain says we can do stuff, but how do we pay for it? We can’t go into Darfur because we don’t have the resources right now, but when I get into office we can.
Who answered the question: Obama (he at least mentioned money).
Discussion: When will we use American forces to intervene in humanitarian crises?
Obama: If we could have intervened in the Holocaust or Rwanda we should have. Genocide and ethnic cleansing solvency should be part of our interests; however, we can’t “be everywhere all the time”. We have to work with our allies.
McCain: We would have been in a wider war if we didn’t do the troop surge; I will make America win in Iraq. GENERAL PETRAEUSIS SWEET. We have to prevent genocide, but it also must be beneficial to their situation. In Somalia, we had to withdraw in humiliation. I love Ronald Reagan. NEVER AGAIN unless we’d make it worse.
Who answered the question: Both.
Question 9: Should the United States respect Pakistani soverignty and not persue al-Qaeda, or should we ignore their borders and get our enemies?
Obama: We shouldn’t have gone into Iraq. That caused al-Qaeda to screw up Afghanistan. So let’s reverse course from Iraq and send the troops to Afghanistan. Let’s encourage democracy in Pakistan, send more non-military aid there, and insist that they attack terrorism. If we can get bin Laden, then we should get him, if Pakistan can’t or won’t.
McCain: I love Teddy Roosevelt: “Walk soft-er, talk softly….” Obama’s gonna piss off Pakistan. Trust me. We should not have allowed Taliban and al-Qaeda to come back into Pakistan. We have to get their support. GENERAL PETRAEUS IS SWEET. We have to work with them… but talk softly and carry a big stick.
Obama: I want a follow-up.
Brokaw & McCain: Alright.
Obama: I never wanted to fight Pakistan, if they’re unwilling to fight bin Laden, then we should. “That HAS to be our policy, because they are threatening to kill more Americans.” He sang “Bomb, bomb Iran.” He wanted to destroy North Korea. We hadn’t even finished Afghanistan, and he said “Next stop, Baghdad.” We should not have supported Musharraf.
McCain: Not true. I supported those efforts, “and I have opposed those that I didn’t think so.” I was joking with an old friend about Iran. OBAMA JUST SAID HE’D ATTACK PAKISTAN.
Who answered the question: Both…eventually.
Question 10: How do we fix Afghanistan?
Obama: Make the Iraqi government take more responsibility, withdraw Iraqi troops responsibly, and put more troops in Afghanistan. Karzai must be more responsive to the Afghan people.
McCain: I STILL FUCKING LOVE GENERAL PETRAEUS. Obama is right about increasing the size of the Army, and must still have the same strategy of a troop surge cross-applied to Afghanistan from Iraq. OH MY GOD GENERAL PETRAEUS IS SWEET.
Who answered the question: Both.
Question 11: How do we apply pressure to Russia on humanitarian issues without causing another Cold War?
McCain: We won’t have another Cold War, but when I looked into Putin’s eyes, I saw three letters: KGB (What. The. Fuck.) We have to show moral support for Georgia and Ukraine. We have to have international pressures on Russia to change their behavior.
Obama: We can’t just provide moralsupport, because we have to do that with every former Soviet satellite. We also have to provide them with financial support to rebuild Georgia’s economy, and anticipate such problems. In April, I said that the situation in Georgia was unsustainable. We have to stop being reactive. Also, energy.
Who answered the question: Both.
Discussion: YES OR NO is Russia under Putin an evil empire?
Obama: I think that it’s a really big problem.
McCain: “Maybe.” We have to understand that there are really big problems, etc. etc.
Who answered the question: Neither.
Question 12: I was in the military; If Iran attacks Israel, will you deploy troops yourself or wait for the UNSC?
McCain: Thanks for your service to this country thank you thank you thank you. Iran is a threat to the stability to the Middle East because of nuclear weapons. They want to wipe Israel off of the map. Obama wants to sit down with them without precondition. We have to bind with our allies and impose strict sanctions, and I think that a League of Democracies would work. MENTIONS THE HOLOCAUST.
Obama: I honor your service. We can not allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. We will never take military options off the table, and we can’t allow veto power to subjugate our views. We have to make those kinds of choices with our allies, though, so we have to work more effectively on sanctions and reduce energy consumption and stop Iran from getting refined gasoline. We have to tell them about the consequences for and against negative actions. PRESIDENT BUSH WAS AN IDIOT.
Who answered the question: Neither.
Question 13: What don’t you know and how will you learn it?
Obama: Joke about my wife criticizing me. I came from modest means. The help of scholarships and my grandmother got me here. Everyone needs more money and health care. We have to change everything in America for the better.
McCain: What’s going to happen both at home and abroad. There are new and different challenges coming from countries that we don’t even know where on the map they are. My mother raised my family. I know what it’s like to have to fight for hope. I know what it’s like to have friends that help you. I believe in America.
Who answered the question: McCain.